Episode 47

You Don’t Know What You Don’t Know—Yet. Here's What to Do About It

Hey hey friend,

Today, we’re diving headfirst into the wild, wonderful world of curiosity and lifelong learning. You know us—two self-proclaimed nerds who believe that asking “why?” is the first step to growing as a leader (and as a human!). 

We’re sharing stories about what it means to admit you don’t know it all (spoiler: nobody does!), how to embrace the unknown, and why it’s okay to not have all the answers—whether you’re running a team, a household, or just trying to figure out what game you’re even playing! 🎲

We’ll talk about filling up your “toy box” with new skills, the importance of pausing to rest and reflect (yes, even you, busy bee! 🐝), and how to turn all that knowledge into real, juicy fruit for your team to enjoy. ✨

Plus, we’re keeping it real about the pressures of leadership, the need for boundaries, and why sometimes you just need to take a walk and let your brain marinate. And don’t worry—we’re serving up plenty of laughs, a few spicy sidebars, and a whole lot of encouragement to keep you learning, leading, and living well. 💖

So, pour yourself a cup of something good, get comfy, and join us as we remind you: stay curious, rest up, and remember—when you live well, you lead well! 🌱

xo,

Kishshana & Maria 

Tune in to hear:

  • How to embrace curiosity and acknowledge what you don’t know as a path to growth 🌱 
  • How to turn new knowledge into action (instead of just collecting information!) and share it with your team 🚀 
  • How to make space for rest and reflection after intense learning or big projects, so you can lead with fresh energy ✨

Episode Overview

  • (02:30) Acknowledging Knowledge Gaps as Leaders  
  • (04:40) The Pressures of Management & Team Expectations  
  • (10:20) Learning About Yourself and Your Team  
  • (13:25) Filling Your Toy Box: Approaching Learning as Play  
  • (17:10) Turning Knowledge into Action: The Domino Effect  
  • (22:00) Avoiding the Trap of Just Collecting Information  
  • (24:40) The Importance of Rest and Reflection  
  • (26:30) Planning for Learning and Implementation  
  • (29:45) Staying Curious & Teasing the Next Episode

Powerful Quotes

"Acknowledging what you don’t know is one of the first baby bird steps you could take to growth." -Kishshana 

"When you don’t acknowledge what you don’t know, you really trap yourself into some of the behavior that we love to hate." -Kishshana 

"You can’t play if you don’t have more toys in your toy box." -Kishshana 

"Learning also means resting before you activate on what you’ve learned." -Kishshana 

"Before you have a plan, you got to have a vision. Before you have the vision, you need to understand what does success look like in this season of my life?" -Kishshana 

"Stay curious, rest up, and remember—when you live well, you lead well!" -Kishshana 

"Be open to new perspectives and try to seek out feedback." -Maria 

"No one person knows everything, and you most certainly do not know what you don’t know." -Maria 

"Sometimes we default to cognitive, because we’re a cognitive forward culture, even if that’s not our primary modality." -Maria 

"If you have people on your team like this, find that out quickly, because they need space to mess up to learn." -Maria 

"The challenge then becomes knowledge to wisdom, as applying your new knowledge effectively." -Maria 

"If you don’t do the work of harvesting, which is this application we’re talking about, your fruit will rot." -Maria 

"The goal that I’m offering is I want to know more than I knew the last time." -Maria

Let’s go deeper 👇🏾

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✔️ Connect with Maria on LinkedIn: @mariadautruche 

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Kishshana Palmer

Kishshana Palmer, CFRE is the author of Busy Is a Four-Letter Word: A Guide to Achieving More By Doing Less, uni-mom, trainer, educator, author and professional speaker. She is the CEO of ManageMint, Inc., Founder of “The Rooted Collaborative” - a global learning community for women leaders of color in the social sector - and host of ManageMint Made Easy formerly Let’s Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders. When she is not starring in the Life of My Queenager (okay it’s not a real show, but it could be), she is dropping knowledge about leadership and life. Kishshana is the epitome of your classic 90's Queens homegirl and quintessential corner office executive. She is your daily dose of Claire Huxtable with a side of Blanche Devereaux.