Episode 48

Break the Deep-End Flailing Cycle: How to Stop Drowning and Start Leading

Hey hey friend,

In this episode, we’re talking all about that wild, wobbly feeling of being thrown into management without a life jacket—flailing, not sailing, and wondering when the lifeboat is coming!

We get real about the “supposed to’s” and “shoulds” that leave us treading water in a sea of shame, and why sometimes, the container (not just the swimmer!) needs fixing. From surprise promotions to juggling a million roles, we’re sharing our own splashy stories and reminding you: you’re not alone in the kiddie pool OR the open ocean.

So grab your goggles, take a deep breath, and join us for some laughs, a little wisdom, and a whole lot of heart. We’re here to help you float, not just flail.

xo,

Kishshana & Maria 💌

Tune in to hear:

  • How to keep your head above water when you’re promoted without a life jacket (or a manual)
  • How to spot and shake off the “shoulds” and “supposed to’s” that lead to shame-spirals
  • How to manage challenging team members (and your own expectations) without sinking

Episode Overview

  • (00:07) Welcome & Setting the Scene: Flailing in Management  
  • (02:00) The “Supposed To’s” and Shame Spirals  
  • (04:30) When You’re Promoted Without Preparation  
  • (07:00) The Struggle with Difficult Team Members  
  • (10:00) Strategies for Staying Afloat (and Finding Joy)  
  • (13:00) Nourishing Yourself & Your Relationships
  • (15:00) Self-Care at Work: Boundaries & Aromatherapy  
  • (17:00) Speaking Up: Sharing Struggles and Asking for Help  
  • (19:00) Askers vs. Guessers: Team Communication Styles  
  • (21:00) Celebrating Wins—Big, Small, and Everyday
  • (23:00) Staying Flexible & Remembering Your “Why”  
  • (25:00) The Power of Check-Ins & Community Support  
  • (27:00) Reciprocity: Giving and Receiving Help  

Powerful Quotes

"If you're saying a whole lot of should, you're probably feeling a whole lot of shame." - Maria

"I want this to be excellent, not only because I'm a part of it, but because I'm supporting you." - Maria

"I am like, what the heck am I gonna do about fill in the blank, right? But I'm not having this, like, hyperventilating." - Kishshana

"There should be a ritual in your life every day that honors your accomplishments, just in that day." - Maria

"Sometimes I think when you are looking out there, you're not seeing the daily work happening within yourself." - Maria

"I am just standing at this place where the work before me is about to be real tough, and I'm just sick of being a soldier in the army of the Lord, and would like to be on Ready Reserve." - Kishshana

"We have done a really good job of performing swimming. We have done a really good job of starting for the gram on the yacht." - Kishshana

"If you are a manager, and even if you're not a good manager, if you have a good team, it is harder to flail, because they don't want you flailing." - Kishshana

"You gotta start by acknowledging what you don't know and seeking resources to fill in those gaps." - Kishshana

"If you are flailing as a manager and you can't remember the last time you did something for yourself, with yourself and by yourself, then we are inviting you into an opportunity to nourish yourself." - Kishshana

"So breaking that cycle, it starts with admitting you're in it. This is what I need, is admitting that you're in a thing and then taking proactive steps to swim and not to sink." - Kishshana

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Kishshana Palmer

Kishshana Palmer, CFRE is the author of Busy Is a Four-Letter Word: A Guide to Achieving More By Doing Less, uni-mom, trainer, educator, author and professional speaker. She is the CEO of ManageMint, Inc., Founder of “The Rooted Collaborative” - a global learning community for women leaders of color in the social sector - and host of ManageMint Made Easy formerly Let’s Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders. When she is not starring in the Life of My Queenager (okay it’s not a real show, but it could be), she is dropping knowledge about leadership and life. Kishshana is the epitome of your classic 90's Queens homegirl and quintessential corner office executive. She is your daily dose of Claire Huxtable with a side of Blanche Devereaux.